Search Engines
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I believe Google is not indexing the archive because we are not publishing a site map for it. Probably they are not indexing the forum either, because the path thereto goes through the site with the home page and the archive and Google classifies that site as low-value.
Approval-ordered Llull (letter grades) [10], Score // Llull [9], Score, STAR, Approval, other rated Condorcet [8]; equal-ranked Condorcet [4]; strictly-ranked Condorcet [3]; everything else [0].
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@jack-waugh I still say the plain old https://votingtheory.org should go straight to the forum, preferably on the recent topics page.
We've discussed a few things that the mysterious council needs to make decisions on, and they've been pretty quiet. There's a certain point that those who are here and contribute to the forum should be able to make changes, rather than waiting endlessly for people who don't bother participating but want to be in control.
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@rob I agree with a principle that in general, when the supposed leadership of an enterprise seen as worth something goes in effect away without official leave (AWOL), it's reasonable for those interested in keeping it going to form a new government.
I think those who want to be in on making the decisions about this forum for the future should try to come to a proposal most of them can agree on about how the decisions will be fixed upon. I think a weakness of the past regime was its requirement for a realtime meeting. Maybe some of you can figure out how to decide things via textual intercourse alone. I think there should be a proposed constitution, then a formal mutiny with all who agree to it signing on in public.
If equal.vote doesn't collect donations and own the domain name, I'm not sure how the forum government will free itself and the forum from dependency on whichever individual human being is listed as the client to the domain registrar firm and whose credit card is or will be on record with that firm. The risk is that something happens to that individual and the new council loses control of the domain name. The usual solution is to have a legally constituted organization that can own things and contract with firms. equal.vote is such a legally constituted organization. If a new one is to be formed, so far as I know, that involves paying a lawyer, which I am not willing to do by myself. So, in order to have the help of an existing legally constituted organization, it may be good to stay somewhat on the good side of Ms. Wolk. I don't know whether a forum mutiny will put her off and lose us the help of that org.
Approval-ordered Llull (letter grades) [10], Score // Llull [9], Score, STAR, Approval, other rated Condorcet [8]; equal-ranked Condorcet [4]; strictly-ranked Condorcet [3]; everything else [0].
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@jack-waugh Yeah I don't think we need a "mutiny" per se, just a petition by all the people that use the forum regularly (say, the top six posters which is identical to the top 6 reputation: @Andy-Dienes, @Marylander, @Keith-Edmonds, @cfrank, you and me).
And I'd hope we don't need a lawyer. I've represented myself against lawyers multiple times in "long cause" trials and won, for what that is worth. And we shouldn't need to create any sort of legal organization: totally overkill for a forum like this.
All we need is a written agreement as to what happens to the domain and forum database if someone is unable to continue holding it and running it. If you are concerned about someone dying, just give contact info for the person who would be estate manager (next of kin), so that they can be contacted and the domain transferred. It's not complicated unless someone tries to be difficult about it, and even then a signed written agreement should ultimately prevail.
Lawyers try to scare people into thinking they can't do anything without their expensive services. It's simply not true.
Regardless I could help write something up, both to petition equal.vote and the council to hand things over, and an agreement to make sure we keep the forum even if someone disappears.
I'd be happy to be a lot more helpful in running it if we did this.
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@rob Currently, the arrangements for my death estate are nowhere near properly set up. The keys should probably be in the hands of someone who has a good last will that names a trustworthy person as executor.
Approval-ordered Llull (letter grades) [10], Score // Llull [9], Score, STAR, Approval, other rated Condorcet [8]; equal-ranked Condorcet [4]; strictly-ranked Condorcet [3]; everything else [0].
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@rob As things stand, you would need nothing of equal.vote in order to change the governance of the forum. You can petition the current council. It consists of four people. I'm one, Sara Wolk is one, @cfrank, and @Marylander.
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@jack-waugh said in Search Engines:
Currently, the arrangements for my death estate are nowhere near properly set up
No pun intended, but involving estates and such seems like overkill.
There are so many simpler ways to do things. If this forum had 100,000 users, it might be different. If you died and no one had access to your account and you hadn't given out a contact of your next of kin, you know what would happen? We'd just stop using the forum. It isn't the end of the world.
It could be as simple as getting new free email and godaddy accounts that you share the password with another person, and just sign an agreement with them that neither can change the password without agreement from the other (unless the other dies or doesn't respond for a long time).
The only reason a lawyer is needed is if anyone contests it.... but who is going to do that? Nobody cares that much about this forum.
Seriously, you are making things WAY to complicated. This sort of thing is done all the time.
