A tweak to IRV to make it a Condorcet method
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@cfrank yeah, after posting I went further into the electowiki link etc
But I think my key view isn't just the decency of the method but the marketing as "IRV tweak". I imagine so much more success talking to RCV advocates and saying, "hey, there's a tweak that really improves RCV, it's just doing a bottom-two runoff when eliminating candidates…" and it sounds so much more "yes and" than other ways of bringing up issues with methods in practice…
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If equal-ranking is permitted at the bottom (e. g., by leaving candidates unmarked) but not permitted at the top, then the Frohnmayer equality constraint is violated.
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BTR-Score is easier to explain than IRV. No need to talk about transferring votes.
Rated methods are generally simple, here is may take on a few:
Score Voting Methods – Score, STAR, and BTR-Score -
@gregw for some reason, I can't click the link to see that other post you are referencing, but I was able to look into BTR-score mentioned in various places. I agree it is fine, but it is much bigger step (less of just a tweak) to go from people assuming RCV/IRV is all there is. Given a world of naive people just thinking IRV is the only alternative, the smallest tweak from there is easier to promote. With BTR-IRV, the ballot style can stay the same.
I'm not saying BTR-IRV is ideal, I'm saying it's more practical in the context of political reality.
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@wolftune, any number of times, I have responded to PropagandaName's Tweets in favor of not-further-specified RCV by asking "Why do you oppose bottom-two runoff?". There has not been much response. Maybe more voices repeating the same question would help draw attention to it.
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@jack-waugh if you are describing RR from FV, I once had an argument about the bullet-vote claim and score voting, and it devolved to be obvious that some people have no interest in even softening their confidence about something in light of being questioned. I don't use Twitter/X at all anymore. I think best to bring up BTR in whatever random conversations when RCV comes up. More people will bring it up when more people know it is a thing etc.
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Link fixed, I got a little sloppy with the paste.
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@wolftune I do like this idea, it would also improve IRV-PR. Have you consider proposing this to RCV advocates?
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@brian-lackey I think the main point is to use this to prompt IRV advocates to look at this issue, yes. I do not have plans to spend lots of time making this happen myself though