Why isn't anyone talking about the elephant in the room?

[rob]

@jack-waugh said in Why isn't anyone talking about the elephant in the room?:

vote splitting leads the voters to obey the money signal

This I don't get. Isn't that a pretty minor issue in terms of what candidates spend money on? He says this:

Instead, voters can, .... just score the good candidates high, not caring one whit about how much money they have ....

But wait, he says voters just "score the good candidates high." He completely ignores the fact that candidates still need to convince voters that they are "good", so there is still a need for money for advertising etc.

No method fixes that problem, it is simply a different problem.

Bizarre little article.

Anyway, final point, I think this community would make better progress if we tried harder not to be a place for people to vent about other random things they don't like about the way the world works. This thread was about "why aren't we voting on our favorite voting methods" and once again it gets derailed and has now become about the influence of money on politics.

[Jack Waugh]

Again, the reason a description of the severity of the problem with public political elections is in here is in response to the suggestion that there are many different circumstances for voting, and the "best" system depends on the circumstances.

Actually, as Sass has been saying, even in public political elections in the United States of America, circumstances differ from State to State. In some States, plain Score would not meet State constitutional requirements for a "majority", but STAR might. In some cities, there might not be enough money to change voting machines, so Approval might be the only viable reform.

I will seek the correct category in which to respond to your pooh-poohing of the link between vote splitting and absolute control by money.

Which reminds me that there is a proposal to simplify the category hierarchy and the holdup on that is my putting up a node at which the council members can register when they are available to meet. I have never set up something like that in any of the tools that do that, so I guess I have to choose at random from among the available tools.

[rob]

@jack-waugh said in Why isn't anyone talking about the elephant in the room?:

Sass has been saying,

He should come here and defend his positions. I see huge flaws in his logic and approaches, but don't want to feel like I'm attacking someone who isn't here to defend himself.