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@rob yeah, this is definetely an easier visual then those number-overload!
I think the easier graphics will allow more complexity in details because voters will feel they already undetsnd "enough" of it to feel good about it.
Most people don't try understanding every detail, just a good-enough-intuition.

@sass I think tiebraking rules are complex and based on intuitions, values, assumptions, (mis)understandings, personal hisorical experiences (good and bad) and this fuzziness. This makes them them very vulnerable to say bad press or campaigning of other voteting-method activists. Therefore I would prefer to adjust your method: remove all tiebraking rules and let voters vote about it on the same ballot as the main vote:
Most elections have a unique winner but sometimes ties can occur what shoud happen according to you?
1 new election
2 random selection
3 highest average ranking
4 some other tiebreak variant a
5 some other tiebreak variant b

@rob yeah, it used to be much more interesting and I would favor any ideas to make it better! My understanding of stuff is not good enough to take an other role then posting every now and then...

@rob you could be right for certain contexts like a state in the US. But I live in The Netherlands and often in these forums many assumptions are made without being aware of them.
for instance:

• complexity stemming from incompatible vote counting machines...in NL no vote counting machines are used so this is not relevant
• political and legal worries: In NL it is not possible for citizens to propose a law, let alone the wording of it. This happens by nonpolitical civil servants in talks with goverment. Many very complex texts become law with minor discussions. Some details may not even have to become law but can be decided by ministers or other functions.
• the current voting rules in NL have some complex details that almost no-one knows and have never been in mainstream discussions.